PUBLIC POLL: Better Ballots Mayoral Forum

Better Ballots has completed the public outreach component of our project, and is now moving into the electoral arena.  After collecting hundreds of votes from citizens about which voting reform options they would like to see in Toronto, we want to ask our mayoral candidates which options they like and whether they are prepared to make any commitments to reforming our electoral system to make it more fair and inclusive.  To do this, we’ll be hosting a Mayoral Forum on June 1st. (details to be announced)

But here’s our problem:  There are 26 people running for mayor. We’ve only got about 100 minutes for the event, so if we invite all the candidates we’ll only be able to hear them each speak for about 4 minutes.  Considering that we want to hear the candidates’ opinion on fourteen different reform options, this only leaves about 15 seconds for each candidate to talk about each option. That’s not very useful.

On the one hand, we don’t want to be unnecessarily exclusive.  On the other hand, we don’t want to organise an event that doesn’t serve a purpose.

After some discussion, this is what we’ve decided:

• All candidates will be invited to speak briefly: to introduce themselves and comment on which reforms they most prefer.

• A group of 8 candidates will be selected to be featured and give more in depth answers.

This compromise allows all candidates to be heard,  but also gives the audience more in depth answers than the 15 second sounds bites they would get with a full 27 candidate panel.

So, next question is:  Who are the 8?  For obvious political reasons, we want to include the six candidates who are polling as the “frontrunners”.   That includes Rob Ford, Giorgio Mammoliti, Joe Pantalone, Rocco Rossi, George Smitherman and Sarah Thomson.

That leaves two candidates to be selected, out of a remaining slate of 20. Instead of handpicking them ourselves, we want to leave it up to you!!

We’ve created an online poll, and ask you to pick your top TWO choices.

Click HERE to VOTE!

25 responses to “PUBLIC POLL: Better Ballots Mayoral Forum

  1. Where is the venue and what is the capacity?
    I am assuming that the show is in the evening…

  2. Hey Sonny!

    We’ll be announcing the venue next week. The capacity will be roughly 150-200 people.

    ~ dave

  3. DAVE :WITH DUE RESPECT ,AND OUT OF RESPECT TO ALL WHO HAS TAKEN THE EFFORT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THOSE WHO WILL NOT OR IS AFRAID TO.. TO ESCLUDE DOUGLAS CAMBELL AND KEVIN CLARKE AND INCLUDE SARAH THOMPSON IS NOT JUST ,FOR THE RECORD THIS IS THE THIRD ELECTION THAT MR CAMBELL AND MR CLARKE HAS BEEN INVOLVE IN ,THIS IS THOMPSON FIRST, THOMPSON HAS NO POLITICIAL HISTORY MR CLARKE PLACED SEVENTH OUT OF 26 CANDIDATE AGAINST MR LASTMAN ,CAMBELL FIFTH ,IN THE LAST TWO ELECTION MR CAMBELL AND MR CLARKE HAVE PLACED IN THE TOP 12 ..THOMPSON ONLY QUALIFICATION IS SHE IS A WOMAN ,AND THAT IS NOT SOUND ENOUGH REASON’S TO INCLUDE HERE IN THE TOP SIX,SURE SOME MAY SAY HERE BUISNESS BACK GROUND GIVE’S HER VOICE ,YET HER BUISNESS HAS NEVER BEING FEATURE IN CANADA NATIONAL NEWSPAPER THE GLOBE AND MAIL ..MR CLARKE BUISNESS THE MAIN MOTORMAN WAS FEATURE JULY 1 1991,FRONT PAGE, REPORT ON BUISNESS, NOT MANY PEOPLE WERE AWARE THAT CLARKE WAS THE SOLE PROPERITOR OF SAID BUISNESSS…THAT BEING SAID, IF ALL IS INVITED ,I WILL RESPECT WHATSOEVER FORMAT YOU CHOOSE…

    GOVERN YOURSELF TRUTHFULLY
    KEVIN CLARKE

  4. Thanks for your thoughts Kevin!

    We don’t want to get into the game of deciding who is worthy, and who isn’t. The media has chosen their six, for whatever reasons, and we feel it’s important to invite those six.

    As for the other two, we are leaving that up to public, with this poll.

    And of course, all 26 will get a chance to speak. It’s the fairest compromise between our desire to be democratic and our need to have a functional event that advances our goal of electoral reform.

    I’m looking forward to seeing you on June 1st!

    cheers,
    ~ mez

  5. Calm down Kevin; otherwise some readers who have never met you will think you are yelling.(smile)
    David is affiliated with the literati at EYE, the one that made up your odds last year.
    You complained to their “piece of crap editor”(paraphrased) that you thought called you the N word. They also ran a photo of you in their April 28 chart and are doing damage to your campaign.

    David already ran a post that featured a photo of Achampong and in a mock poll gave his friend Cole the highest percentage…(chuckle)

  6. This is the most inclusive event of this entire campaign so far. Congratulations on achieving what could be a workable format.

  7. Dear Michael; in 2006 the CCNC hosted a ward 41 councillor debate where 10 candidates were invited and 7 or 8 were present.
    The CCNC also hosted an ALL Candidates Debate for the 2003 Mayoral race where about 25-30 participated.

    Question for David: What is the EDay for this so I can know what to write in my letter to supporters?

  8. Sonny: E-Day is today my friend. You’ve got about four hours left.

  9. Great! I received your message in my spam. So I guess you’ll be trying the weekend voting now.

    I’ll be going to the CCNC event tonight so I will see what I can come up with.(laugh)

  10. When do we find out which of the 14 options on which the public voted will become high priorities for Better Ballots?

  11. Dear SD, when they get it organized. I was thinking about that given this weekend’s experiment allows anyone in the world to vote of whatever age with internet access.

    Though the major concern in the town halls were about the internet and phone voting in the first category…

  12. PICK YOUR NOSE ,.SCRATCH YOUR BUM,NOW SMELL IT ..WHAT DO YOU SMELL

    ANSWER:REALITY..

    THAT’S WHAT THIS ELECTION NEED

  13. Come on Kevin; no candidate will get 50%+1, and the trending is that no 2 candidates will get 33.3% So we are headed to round 3 of the match, something like a leadership convention?
    There should be a link to see results if you have already voted…

    Though this problem could have been solved using a ranked ballot rather than 2 check OR the 1 that I recommended to my supporters.
    Take care, I’m off to Church. Sonny

  14. In my view, Kevin Clarke’s comments are so rude that, if it can be verified that these were written by the real Kevin Clarke, then he should not be permitted to participate in the debate. If Better Ballots wants to be taken seriously by municipal and provincial elected officials, then it would help to have a reasonably reasoned, reasonably informed debate. The comments posted above, while they may help win some votes among some constituents, in my view would form a disservice to the overall objective of better ballots – namely to have a solid debate on how we choose.

  15. When I checked at 4:57pm Rocco had 33.2% of the total. I called a friend to vote before 6:00pm Rocco had 33.0% 208 of 631 votes.

    You wrote that round two was from Friday to Sunday AFTERNOON not Night. I assume David read my email to encourage supporters to vote before 4pm EST to lock in.

  16. Hey Sonny, I’m not sure what you’re saying exactly.

    I originally wrote ‘Sunday Afternoon’, but my schedule on Sunday was thrown off by construction detour on the 401. I had a family dinner in the evening, so I didn’t get to my computer until about 11pm.

  17. In April I emailed you about this possible event and we went back and forth with nothing clear from you, so I let it go…
    Since the round one voting was 24 hours from the 4:58pm email you sent Thursday. Sunday at 4:58pm would have been 48 hours of round two:”Friday to Sunday Afternoon.”(your post)
    At least the City is clear EDay is October 25, 10am-8pm!
    Since I attended 3 of the 4 town halls, you already know my position. If Clarke can get more votes than me I would be willing to give up my minute to him since he feels upset by this process. Politicians usually take more than their alloted time.(smile) Hopefully you’ll figure out other details like time and place…

  18. Hey Sonny, I think was you’re forgetting is that the city pays staff to run elections. This is a volunteer-driven project, so we have to work the schedule around the rest of our lives. I get a $350 /month honorarium to be the Project Coordinator for Better Ballots. Our entire budget is $5,000 for a 12-month project. That includes printing, food, transportation, supplies, etc..

    So the reason that the second round was twice as long as the first round is simple: I was at a friend’s cottage.

    Anyway, both you and Kevin are in the final round, so I would think you’d be quite happy. ; )

  19. I am unclear. Does that mean Round Three: that began at 12:47am is 3 days or some incomplete time that happens to fit?

  20. Yes, I suppose you can say that. If you want a specific time, I can make one up. But it just depends on when I happen to be at my computer. I would guess that I’ll close the voting tomorrow morning, around 10am.

  21. DAVE YOU’RE DOING EXCELLENT JOB,MICHEAL WENT YOU ARE A IDIOT ,I WOULD HAVE CALLED YOU SIR ,YET I BELIEVE YOU’RE A HER,,,AND YES MICHEAL I AM KEVIN CLARKE THE NIGHTMARE OF THOSE WHO THINK THERE SHIT DON’T STINK,AND AT THE DEBATE MICHEAL YOU WILL GET YOUR WISH FOR SOMEONE TO FART IN YOUR MOUTH…SONNY YOU CAN BE A GOOD KID,LAY OFF DAVE ,AND DAVE YOU DON’T NEED TO EXPLAIN TO NO ONE,I WILL NOT GIVE MUCH PEOPLE IN POLITICS RESPECT
    AFTER MARY WARD,..YET YOU HAVE GOT IT ,,,MEANS YOU’RE ARE ATTEMPTING TO BE FAIR AND DEMOCRATIC,,AND THAT’S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME..

  22. DAVE ,
    KEEP DOING WHAT YOU’RE DOING,AND FOR THOSE WANT TO BE MAYOR ,ALL I SAY TO YOU IS WHAT IT LIKE BEING A WANNABEE…NEVER FORGET..JESUS WEPT ,CHRIST WAS IN THE DEPTH,GOD BLESS….

  23. Kevin; from the round two post, you had to get either 50%+1 or 2 get 33.3% Rocco got 33.2% Those who count the votes determine the outcome…
    In a real simulation you would have a start and end then count the total so people will get the final answer. That is why polls prior to a vote may sway the outcome.

  24. Will there be security at the debate? With a white supremacist speaking, and with Kevin Clarke’s posting of 8:58 am, I actually feel a bit threatened.

    Kevin, it goes without saying that you’ve lost my vote. Best of luck with your campaign.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s